Stims

Yesterday at 7:45 am I had my first IVF monitoring appointment. Since Kaiser doesn’t cover IVF, Dr. Y does all his IVF appointments in the early morning, across town from his main office. Lucky for me, this is only about 10 minutes from my house. (The Kaiser office is about 10 minutes from my work, so it’s been pretty convenient all-around.) I liked my new clinic. The waiting room looked much nicer than the Kaiser facility: lots of good magazines, friendly staff, and a beautiful aquarium. I sat and watched the fish eating their breakfast while C studied his iPhone.

And… my follies are growing, but slowly (which Dr. Y insisted isn’t necessarily a bad thing). The biggest one measured 8 mm. Estradiol level was 83. Dr. Y said to keep taking the same dose of Clomid & Menopur (and dexamethasone, although he didn’t mention that), and to come back on Saturday.

Oh, and we paid the first big bill: $10,115 “Global Fee” for IVF + ICSI. This amount covers all the monitoring appointments and labs, the egg retrieval, and the embryology part. The Global Fee does NOT cover meds, “Embryo Banking” (freezing and storing the embryos), or frozen embryo transfer, so a complete account of the full cost will have to wait.

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Given where I’m at in my cycle, it seems like my stims would be a good science topic for today, but first the usual:

I am NOT an endocrinologist, or any kind of medical professional! This blog does NOT purport to offer medical advice, medical opinions, or recommendations. Please take this for what it is – the ramblings of an infertile woman trying to make sense of her complicated treatment protocol!

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So, stims…

My ovarian stimulation regimen is low-dose menopausal gonadotropins (Menopur, 150 IU), and clomiphene (Clomid, 100 mg). The goal is to get my ovaries to produce not one but several large, mature, healthy eggs. To understand how these drugs are supposed to accomplish this goal, it would probably help to provide some background. And I feel the need to point out, once again, that I am not an expert. (This blog is not called ‘the infertile endocrinologist’! But if you find a blog with that title, please let me know. I’d love to read it.) So anyway, here’s how I think it works:

Sex hormone signaling 101

Normally, when my body wants to produce estradiol (the most important of the estrogens), my brain sends a signal to my pituitary gland. The pituitary responds by sending a signal to my ovaries, which respond by doing a bunch of things, including making estradiol. The estradiol itself acts as a signal that travels around and tells various body parts to do things.

The carrier pigeons transmitting all these signals are hormones. So, more precisely, my brain produces a hormone called luteinizing hormone releasing hormone (LHRH, also known as gonadotropin-releasing hormone or GnRH), which travels to my pituitary and tells it to produce two more hormones: luteinizing hormone (LH) and follicle stimulating hormone (FSH). These hormones travel to my ovaries and stimulate them to do a bunch of things – like grow eggs and make estradiol…which itself helps to prep the uterine lining, and so on.

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Feedback

As the level of estradiol increases, it circulates through the bloodstream and some of it reaches my brain. Once there, the estradiol tells my brain to stop sending the signal to make more estradiol (in other words, to stop making LHRH). This is a natural “negative-feedback loop”.

Estrogen signaling under the influence

While I’m on my stims, the goal is to get lots of follicles to grow at once. This takes high levels of FSH in there, for an extended period of time. There are two main ways of doing this:

  1. Make more of my own FSH. This is what Clomid aims to accomplish. Clomid blocks estradiol from telling the brain to STOP making LHRH. In this case, two wrongs do make a right, and blocking a stop signal is effectively the same as telling the brain to GO! The brain makes LHRH, which stimulates the pituitary to make LH and FSH, which stimulates the ovaries to grow follicles. Nice.
  2. Add in FSH from the outside. This is what I’m doing when I inject Menopur into my belly each night. Technically, Menopur is a mixture of both FSH and LH, but I think FSH plays the bigger role in follicle development (at least, that’s what its name would lead me to believe…)

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The downside of Clomid is that it doesn’t just block estradiol from talking to my brain. It blocks estradiol from talking to anyone…including my ovaries and uterus (who it’s supposed to tell to start prepping the uterine lining for implantation and making lots of sperm-friendly eggwhite cervical mucus). Clomid steals the entire message from the estradiol carrier pigeon.

Enter my weird protocol. Since the Clomid will prevent my uterine lining from being ‘embie-proofed’ in time for transfer this month, we’ll flash freeze those little guys (hopefully lots of them!) and let them chill for a month. This should give me time to do some nesting and get everything nice and ready to welcome the little tykes!

Why such a low dose of Menopur?

It seems counterintuitive that I would be using a low dose of Menopur, since the conventional wisdom is that patients with diminished ovarian reserve are generally less responsive to stims, and should therefore need more stims… For reference, I used 300 – 375 IU (4 or 5 vials) per day for my IUI cycle…more than twice as much as I’m using for IVF. From what I can tell from my limited reading of the literature, it sounds like for DOR patients with few eggs that are available for stimulation, adding more stims doesn’t increase the number of eggs recruited…and might harm egg quality.

Why Clomid?

I haven’t been able to find a clear reason why Clomid is a good choice in my case. The best I can think is that maybe in poor responders using two strategies for increasing FSH levels will work better than just one? Obviously, the fact that we aren’t doing a fresh transfer is a large part of why Clomid becomes a viable option.

What I know for sure

Clomid plus low-dose Menopur is much cheaper than the high-stims alternative.

Aside from a small crop of pimples on my forehead (which I’m guessing is due to the dexamethasone), I haven’t noticed any side-effects so far. I’m grateful for this!

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That’s where we are for now! We’ll see how the follies are doing bright and early Saturday morning!

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One-woman pharmacy, Redux

Now that we have the green light for IVF, I finally trekked over to the pharmacy and picked up the rest of the drugs for my protocol. Here’s the loot this time:

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Between Dr. Y’s sketchy (in my favor) billing and two hefty manufacturer coupons, I got quite a discount. Even with the discount, though, the grand total was quite a bit more than for my IUI drugs:

 

List price

Covered by Kaiser?

Coupon?

My cost

Androgel ~$380

Yes

$20

Androderm ~$390

Yes

$20

Estrace ~$100

Yes

$10

Aspirin ~$5

No

$5

Menopur $750 for 10 vials

Yes

$20

Clomid ~$50

Yes

$20

Decadron ~$7

Yes

$10

Prednisone ~$5

Yes

$10

Vibra-Tabs ~$120

Yes

$10

Pregnyl $89

No

$89

Follistim $299

No

$300

$0

Antagon $354 for 3 syringes

No

$100

$254

Omnitrope $867

No

$867

Total $3416

I actually paid:

$1335

From a chemical standpoint, this list includes 8 small molecule drugs, 4 protein drugs, and one peptide (ganirelix) that is pushing the upper limit of what I’d usually call a small molecule. (I usually give 1000 atomic mass units as the cutoff; ganirelix has a molecular weight of 1570 amu…)

Here are the structures and modes of administration for my drugs:

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Notice anything?

The small molecules tend to have more appealing modes of entry (often pills). Protein and peptide drugs tend to involve needles, for reasons I explained in a previous post.

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I also found the biological source of many of these drugs interesting. (Note: If you’re using any of these drugs and are easily grossed out, or are philosophically opposed to Genetically Modified Organisms, you may not want to keep reading!)

Testosterone was originally discovered by painstaking isolation from bull testicles. The yield was paltry, though – just 20 milligrams from 40 pounds of testicles. (I’m trying not to think about how many bulls had to be emasculated to get 40 pounds of testicles…) Thankfully, nowadays testosterone – along with most other steroid drugs – is made semisynthetically from steroids isolated from plants (often soybeans or Mexican yams). In other words, chemists isolate a similar plant steroid and perform chemical reactions in a laboratory to convert it to the desired human hormone. Drug companies sometimes use the term ‘bioidentical’ to emphasize to non-chemists that hormones that are made semisynthetically are exactly the same – chemically and biologically – as the ones produced in your ovaries (or testicles…)

Menopur is a mixture of FSH and LH purified from the urine of postmenopausal women (hence its name; think Menopausal urine…) Historically this urine came from nuns living in convents in Italy, though I’m not sure if that’s still the case.

Pregnyl is also urine-derived, but presumably not from nuns… Pregnyl is purified hCG from the urine of pregnant women.

Follistim, on the other hand, is made from recombinant FSH (Follicle stimulating hormone) produced in Chinese hamster ovary (CHO) cells. This means that scientists copied a piece of human DNA – the blueprint that tells our cells how to make the FSH protein – and put it into the hamster cells. In effect, they hijacked the hamster cell’s protein factory and programmed it to produce large amounts of human FSH protein. (Don’t worry, the hamster cells now grow in Petri dishes; nobody is manufacturing protein in live hamsters…)

Omnitrope is also made from recombinant DNA technology, but in E. coli bacterial cells instead of hamster ovary cells. Unlike FSH (which is a challenging-to-make glycoprotein requiring sophisticated mammalian cell machinery), growth hormone is relatively easy to make. The human DNA ‘blueprint’ for growth hormone can be put into Escherichia coli cells and the bacteria cells produce the hormone for us.

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I think I’ll stop there. If you want to know more about the chemistry of these drugs, you might check out my previous posts about the structures of FSH, LH, hCG and Clomid; doxycycline; aspirin; testosterone and estradiol (in the context of my current IVF cycle, or of what makes them steroids); the role of estradiol in predicting ovulation with the Clearblue fertility monitor; how hCG is detected in home pregnancy tests; or the significance of FSH and estradiol for diagnosing infertility.